Why I despise the iPhone.

[waveydavey]

Ok, if we're being pedantic.

Iphone security policies available:

Remote wipe
Enforce password on device
Minimum password length
Require alphanumeric password
Require complex password
Inactivity time in minutes

Windows Mobile security policies available:

Allow HTML E-mail
This setting specifies whether e-mail synchronized to the device can be in HTML format. If this setting is set to $false, all e-mail is converted to plain text.
Allow non-provisionable devices
This setting specifies whether older devices that may not support application of all policy settings are allowed to connect to Exchange 2007 by using Exchange ActiveSync.
Allow simple password
This setting enables or disables the ability to use a simple password such as 1234. The default value is $true.
Allow S/MIME software certificates
This setting specifies whether S/MIME software certificates are allowed on the mobile device.
Alphanumeric password required
This setting requires that a password contains numeric and non-numeric characters.
Attachments enabled
This setting enables attachments to be downloaded to the mobile device.
Device encryption enabled
This setting enables encryption on the device. Not all devices can enforce encryption. For more information, see the device and mobile operating system documentation.
Password enabled
This setting enables the device password.
Password expiration
This setting enables the administrator to configure a length of time after which a device password must be changed.
Password history
This setting specifies the number of past passwords that can be stored in a user's mailbox. A user cannot reuse a stored password.
Policy refresh interval
This setting defines how frequently the device updates the Exchange ActiveSync policy from the server.
Maximum attachment size
This setting specifies the maximum size of attachments that are automatically downloaded to the device.
Maximum calendar age filter
This setting specifies the maximum range of calendar days that can be synchronized to the device. The value is specified in days.
Maximum failed password attempts
This setting specifies how many times an incorrect password can be entered before the device performs a wipe of all data.
Maximum inactivity time lock
This setting specifies the length of time that a device can go without user input before it locks.
Minimum password length
This setting specifies the minimum password length.
Maximum e-mail age filter
This setting specifies the maximum number of days' worth of e-mail items to synchronize to the device. The value is specified in days.
Maximum HTML e-mail body truncation size
This setting specifies the size beyond which HTML-formatted e-mail messages are truncated when they are synchronized to the device. The value is specified in kilobytes (KB).
Minimum device password complex characters
This setting specifies the minimum number of complex characters required in a device password. A complex character is any character that is not a letter.
Maximum e-mail body truncation size
This setting specifies the size beyond which e-mail messages are truncated when they are synchronized to the device. The value is specified in kilobytes (KB).
Password recovery
When this setting is enabled, the device generates a recovery password that is sent to the server. If the user forgets their device password, the recovery password can be used to unlock the device and enable the user to create a new device password.
Require Device Encryption
This setting specifies whether device encryption is required. If set to $true, the device must be able to support and implement encryption to synchronize with the server.
Require encrypted S/MIME messages
This setting specifies whether S/MIME messages must be encrypted.
Require manual synchronization while roaming
This setting specifies whether the device must synchronize manually while roaming. Allowing automatic synchronization while roaming will frequently lead to larger-than-expected data costs for the mobile device plan.
Require storage card encryption
This setting specifies whether the storage card must be encrypted. Not all mobile device operating systems support storage card encryption. For more information, see your device and mobile operating system for more information.
UNC file access
This setting enables access to files that are stored on Windows file share (UNC) shares.
WSS file access
This setting enables access to files that are stored in Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services document libraries.
Exchange ActiveSync mailbox policy settings with an enterprise CAL

Setting

Description

Allow Bluetooth
This setting specifies whether a mobile device allows Bluetooth connections. The available options are Disable, HandsFree Only, and Allow.
Allow Browser
This setting specifies whether Pocket Internet Explorer is allowed on the mobile device. This setting does not affect third-party browsers installed on the device.
Allow Camera
This setting specifies whether the mobile device camera can be used.
Allow Consumer Email
This setting specifies whether the mobile device user can configure a personal e-mail account (either POP3 or IMAP4) on the device.
Allow Desktop Sync
This setting specifies whether the mobile device can synchronize with a computer through a cable, Bluetooth, or IrDA connection.
Allow Internet Sharing
This setting specifies whether the mobile device can be used as a modem for a desktop or portable computer.
AllowIrDA
This setting specifies whether infrared connections are allowed to and from the mobile device.
Allow POPIMAPEmail
This setting specifies whether the user can configure a POP3 or an IMAP4 e-mail account on the device.
Allow Remote Desktop
This setting specifies whether the mobile device can initiate a remote desktop connection.
Allow storage card
This setting specifies whether the mobile device can access information that is stored on a storage card.
Allow text messaging
This setting specifies whether text messaging is allowed from the device.
Allow unsigned applications
This setting specifies whether unsigned applications can be installed on the device.
Allow unsigned installation packages
This setting specifies whether an unsigned installation package can be run on the device.
Allow Wi-Fi
This setting specifies whether wireless Internet access is allowed on the device.
Approved Application List
This setting stores a list of approved applications that can be run on the device.
Unapproved InROM application list
This setting specifies a list of applications that cannot be run in ROM.

[KevinR]

Agreed - if you think they are lax in those watch an (eye) make-up advert. There is almost always an "enhanced in post production" disclaimer. I assume most people wouldn't realise what it meant anyway - I assume it means: "Images digitally altered so this isn't even how the stunning model looked, so god help you."

[Bassey]

Originally Posted by KevinR

Agreed - if you think they are lax in those watch an (eye) make-up advert. There is almost always an "enhanced in post production" disclaimer. I assume most people wouldn't realise what it meant anyway - I assume it means: "Images digitally altered so this isn't even how the stunning model looked, so god help you."

My favourite is the hair-colouring ads which mention at the bottom that she was wearing hair-extensions which (given I lost my hair many years ago) I had to check with the all knowing one means it's basically false hair!

Same goes for the mascara (sp?). Voice-over says "achieve thicker, longer-looking lashes with product A" . Small-print states "Model wearing false lashes"

[KevinR]

Just realised - that's why its an eye-phone since the adverts are as heavily doctored.

Glad to see the sudden attack of "most adverts are factual" has passed, come on guys the vast majority are nonsense including the few that MS have bothered making for WM.

All Apple are guilty of is an uncanny sense of good timing and being very good judges of what the public want. As for MS letting Enterprises down in some way by letting Apple into their EAS club, when did MS stop being a business? Of course they will license it to Apple, why not ride on their coat tails and if the iPhone doesn't meet your security requirement then don't allow them on the network!

Out of interest, genuine question, how many of those policies that you mention for WM will work on a 5.0 or 6.0 device connected to Exchange 2003?

[Griph]

Originally Posted by waveydavey

No, I mean the fact that the device cannot be encrypted, and that you cannot use ANY AD security policies on the device. I also know for a fact that the remote wipe doesn't always work either. I've got more if you're interested, but the document is pretty long.
2001, is that the best you can do?

How many WM users on exchange actually have an active password on their device if lost, or have an IT professional who has set up or understands remote wipe or any of the extensive security systems on a WM device - I know many users who dont give a stuff about security on their devices - anything that gets in the way of them being able to access their device is a pain and the password gets disabled for ease of use. What is the point of having all singing all dancing security options on a device only for the muppet using it undoing it all. Not everyone sets up their systems like you do Dave - and I have discovered that the term IT Professional covers a huge range of capabilities! How often have we heard of Civil Servants and Politicians leaving their devices on a train - do you think they had all the security available to them active on their devices?

I wasn't even trying to find similar examples from MS - and frankly I am sure you are aware of them too - in your line of buisness - its been the subject of discussion on the web. So - as far as I am concerned Apple are no worse than any other advertiser out there including Microsoft.

With regard to adding applications to the iPhone - whilst Apple might have trimmed the processes involved, adding apps directly on to an iPhone IS very easy and quick. I do it all the time - and with nine years of using a WM device I can tell you its a damn sight easier than doing it on a WM device - most software STILL isn't available in CAB form so must be downloaded via a PC and then connect the device to install it.

Those where CABs are available are spread all over the place so you have to navigate via a browser to find the site, and then find the downloads page and then download the CAB - and dont get me started on actually buying the software!

As for PocketGear and Handango - I accept there are increasing available CAB files (particularly with Handango's InHand) - but its still limited. Apps are so expensive for the WM!!! - how often have you bought an App for the WM device for $0.99 - or even FREE! OK not all Apple apps are this cheap but generally they are much cheaper!

With the iPhone I open the App Store - search or browse what I want all grouped by type, find what I want - click buy, enter my iTunes password and it installs and is ready to use within 10 - 15 seconds. So Apple are missing an opportunity to say - Install Apps much more easily than on a Windows Mobile device! Because from someone who has extensively used both I speak from experience - can you?

I dont want to knock WM - but as has been said here they have consistently sat back on their laurels and failed to move forward to maintain their market share. They are already behind Symbian and Blackberry and at this rate will drop to a poor fourth. They need to move with the time - invest in WM properly and bring out the device that grabs the attention of the people out there. I just feel now that they are no longer innovating - just reacting! And with the time its going to take them to bring WM7 to the table they aren't going to do it. Do you think Apple are going to wait before then - there is a very strong case that we will see Apple 4.0 before WM7 and where do you think WM will be then? To quote from Britains Got Tallent XXX - You cant blame Apple for that - only Microsoft!

[fowljr]

That being said, a Windows Mobile device is eminently more powerful & flexible than an iPhone!

I'll get my coat!!

[Griph]

Originally Posted by fowljr

That being said, a Windows Mobile device is eminently more powerful & flexible than an iPhone!
I'll get my coat!!

I'll give you that Jim.
However - how many people out there actually need the flexibility and power. Ease of use is a big market heading - and WM just isn't! It may be for many people here - but as I've said before - you guys are in the minority!

[fowljr]

It was tongue in cheek Griph, but I totally agree that the iPhone offers the consumer a ready to go interface that is quite easy to get to grips with, this is what WM7 needs to deliver in terms of the front-end, but in my opinion it shouldn't lose the power & flexibility for us techno-heads who like that kind of thing...

Ease of operation for the everday consumer needs to be a primary focus here if MS want to get more market penetration...

[Griph]

Originally Posted by fowljr

It was tongue in cheek Griph, but I totally agree that the iPhone offers the consumer a ready to go interface that is quite easy to get to grips with, this is what WM7 needs to deliver in terms of the front-end, but in my opinion it shouldn't lose the power & flexibility for us techno-heads who like that kind of thing...

Ease of operation for the everday consumer needs to be a primary focus here if MS want to get more market penetration...

I completely agree - its not a case of loosing power and functionality - its the interface that is the problem with WM - Apple have sorted that - but there really is nothing to stop adding high level functionality AND an intuitive and simple GUI.

I mean input on the iPhone is excellent - I can type with both thumbs on the screen faster than I could ever input on the screen of a WM device, navigating is simple, and the touch screen is so quick and responsive - I feel like I have 1 hand behind my back each time I go back to the Touch Pro. Why cant WM sort that out - why do we have to use a flipping stylus or a slide out keyboard?